The GUS Daily Digest Tuesday, 13 June 1995 Volume 23 : Number 013 Today's Topics: Re: WCIII on the GUS. Dark Forces demo with GUS Megaem304 and Magic Carpet/Theme Park Re: NMI, Dark Forces, More NMI Monty Python CD sound drop-out Re: WCIII Re: Dark Forces demo with GUS [none] Soon to be released patch compilation Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Harry C Pulley IV Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 12:05:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: WCIII on the GUS. I have played WCIII to completion with my GUS MAX (1MB) on DMA channel 7, IRQ 11. I have a Mitsumi 4x CDROM, local bus IDE and Cirrus Logic 2MB video, and 8MB of RAM on a 486DX-33. I don't know why DMA 3 works on your system but DMA 7 does not. Is your ISA bus clock set above 8MHz? On my 33MHz machine, CLK/4 works very well while CLK/3 causes a number of programs to crash intermittently. BTW, to speed up WCIII incredibly, increase your BUFFERS to 99 and FILES to 60 or so in config.sys and don't load a single TSR that you don't need. Increase your CDROM buffers in MSCDEX to the largest amount that you can have and still retain enough memory to run the game. Using these settings the game is fully playable and enjoyable on a 486DX-33, which the docs say is too slow to play. My machine plays the game much faster than a badly set up Pentium 60 with 8MB of RAM that I have seen running in a store. Finally, if you have the disk space, install all possible files on the hard drive. Even with a quad speed drive, doing this helps a lot during the transitional sections of the game. If you have a slow CDROM then you may find it helpful to turn off communications video and even audio since the game often has to reload this stuff from CD (or the HD which can still be slow) which can cause annoying pauses in combat. Harry <:-{} hpulley@uoguelph.ca | This message released to the PUBLIC DOMAIN \ Harry C. Pulley, IV | Mind/Matter=Communication/Transportation - ---------------------------------+-------------------------------------------- Real programmers don't drink Zima|Read Melissa Scott's Trouble_And_Her_Friends ------------------------------ From: R.Wielink@hi.ft.HSE.NL Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 12:13:21 +0100 (CET) Subject: Dark Forces demo with GUS Hi fellow GUSsers, Somebody asked if the DF demo had GUS-support. Well there seem to be different versions. I just bought the Full Throttle CD (Gus support ! It has a fully digitised sound-track, so midi is not applicable) and it contains the trailer from Rebel Assault II, and a Dark Forces demo. Both contain GUS-support via their IMUSE driver. The MIDI-score sounds great via the GUS. I don't know how big the Dark Forces demo is, but may be it is enough to replace the IMUSE-driver stuff for the new ones supplied with this demo. I'll know a friend with the 'old' DF demo so when I find the time I will try it. Greets, Robert Wielink ------------------------------ From: -= Instinct =- Date: Mon, 12 Jun 95 12:16:29 BST Subject: Megaem304 and Magic Carpet/Theme Park I downloaded megaem 304 (beta version) and immediately tried MC I got the MT-32 emulation working straight away and i worked fine As soon as I added the soundblaster emulation then both MC and TP both hung. (If i selected the wrong irq it just thought that it wasnt there and continued without sound) I have a regular GUS.. I dont get a less that 3.xx revision message so I must have >3.xx If anyone with a regular GUS has got soundblaster emulation for either of these Bullfrog games then can they send me there settings or how they got it working. Graham Sturmy ------------------------------ From: "Jason I. Goldovitz" Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 08:47:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: NMI, Dark Forces, More NMI Here goes today's batch of replies... > Is win95 going to support the GUS (MAX) ? Yes. As usual, though, Gravis (it seems they are the only ones... the list of currently supported drivers is phenomenal) refuses to write 32-bit drivers for a beta OS. When it comes out, we'll see GUS 32-bit drivers, which ought to be nice. As a side note, I have Win95 running just fine. It crashed once... and only once, when I was installing the GUS 16-bit drivers. > Why doens't gravis make an emulator like SBOS, but which uses patches ? Ummm... hmm... um... :) > Hi people, > Has anyone got Dark Forces to work with the max(1mb)? > I keep getting corupted insturments!!! It says in the readme file that > the max may produce corupted insturments. I e-mailed lucal arts and they > said gravis worte the drivers in the imuse.exe engine(drivers). So what > up? Gravis cant make drivers for there own card that work :)? > I have a GUSMAX 1 Meg, installed Dark Forces from CD, it worked fine first try. No music problems, no sound problems... it's great. My setup is: IRQ's 11,12 DMA's 6,7 Codec 32c > Just so you don't confuse potential Pentium customers, Win95 and the > Ultrasound drivers run just fine on an NMI-less motherboard, I'm using > them now. Umm... no. How do you know you don't have NMI? Unless the drivers shit the bed and said "You don't have NMI so we're not running", you probably have it, like it or not... silly human. > I also have a NMI less motherboard (but not nearly cheap...enough) > and run win '95 and everything in windows works superbly and I even had > to rig up a sound connection from my toshiba quad to my MAX. The only > problem I have (and this pre-dates windows) is that dos games start off > w/ proper sound and then gradually degrade into chirps and pops the > longer I play. If I stop the game and reload the patches it is > temporarily fixed again (games include doom2, heretic, relentless, MK2, ect). > I was wondering if this is a defect in my MAX's memory or just a mistake > on my part? I remember this problem... anybody care to comment on the solution? And about NMI... see above. - Jason ------------------------------ From: Frederick Denny Date: Mon, 12 Jun 95 9:02:17 EDT Subject: Monty Python CD sound drop-out Greetings Citizens, Say I have the slight misfortune of owning a GUD (rev. 3.4). Anyway, I purchased the Monty Python: Incred. waste of time CD, a windows based program that uses non-Video for Windows/non-Quicktime multi-media. The problem is sound drop-out! Big time. I am running win. drivers 5.50, fixed buffer size 256 and running windows 3.11. This often occurs with Quicktime media, but is often fixed by moving the wave volume on the Gravis mixer. Should I just sell the card? This problem is getting on my nerves. Eat Lotus, FrEd ------------------------------ From: Harry C Pulley IV Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 11:07:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: WCIII I tried sending this but got an error due to net troubles. I apologize if this is somehow sent twice... I have played WCIII to completion with my GUS MAX (1MB) on DMA channel 7, IRQ 11. I have a Mitsumi 4x CDROM, local bus IDE and Cirrus Logic 2MB video, and 8MB of RAM on a 486DX-33. I don't know why DMA 3 works on your system but DMA 7 does not. Is your ISA bus clock set above 8MHz? On my 33MHz machine, CLK/4 works very well while CLK/3 causes a number of programs to crash intermittently. BTW, to speed up WCIII incredibly, increase your BUFFERS to 99 and FILES to 60 or so in config.sys and don't load a single TSR that you don't need. Increase your CDROM buffers in MSCDEX to the largest amount that you can have and still retain enough memory to run the game. Using these settings the game is fully playable and enjoyable on a 486DX-33, which the docs say is too slow to play. My machine plays the game much faster than a badly set up Pentium 60 with 8MB of RAM that I have seen running in a store. Finally, if you have the disk space, install all possible files on the hard drive. Even with a quad speed drive, doing this helps a lot during the transitional sections of the game. If you have a slow CDROM then you may find it helpful to turn off communications video and even audio since the game often has to reload this stuff from CD (or the HD which can still be slow) which can cause annoying pauses in combat. Harry <:-{} hpulley@uoguelph.ca | This message released to the PUBLIC DOMAIN \ Harry C. Pulley, IV | Mind/Matter=Communication/Transportation - ---------------------------------+-------------------------------------------- Real programmers don't drink Zima|Read Melissa Scott's Trouble_And_Her_Friends ------------------------------ From: Mark Woon Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 10:50:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Dark Forces demo with GUS On Mon, 12 Jun 1995 R.Wielink@hi.ft.HSE.NL wrote: > Hi fellow GUSsers, > > Somebody asked if the DF demo had GUS-support. > Well there seem to be different versions. > I just bought the Full Throttle CD (Gus support ! It has a fully > digitised sound-track, so midi is not applicable) and it contains the > trailer from Rebel Assault II, and a Dark Forces demo. Both contain > GUS-support via their IMUSE driver. The MIDI-score sounds great via > the GUS. Anybody willing to upload this new version of the DF demo or imuse to an ftp site? Thanks. *********************************************************************** Mark Woon * I have spoken! markwoon@princeton.edu * ASCII stupid question, get a WWW: http://www.princeton.edu/~markwoon * stupid ANSI. *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: nitehawk@dircon.co.uk (andy) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 95 23:17:16 EDT Subject: [none] Sorry if this question has been asked before but can anyone give me an ftp site and a directory of where I can obtain the new Megaem? Also, I have Leisure Suit Larry 6. The install program has Gravis Ultrasound as an option - but I try it and it does not work properly. I tried also the Sierra 32-bit drivers and that didn't work either. Anyone know how to get this game working with my GUS? I have the GUS set at 220,5,5,11,11 usually, but can also use 220,1,1,11,7 if I need to run SBOS etc. - -andy nitehawk@dircon.co.uk ------------------------------ From: Sinclair Shuit Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 14:41:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Soon to be released patch compilation Hello there, I got quite a good response from people who would like me to upload my current set of patches. I'm going through them at the moment, making a few last minute revisions, editions and deletions before the first upload attempt. To this end I am looking for a GOOD trombone and trumpet patch, the ones which I currently have access to (to put it mildly) stink. If anyone has a good patch to recommend please send it to me or upload it to EPAS...... The patch set should be up in the next week or so.... Sinclair |\|||/|_|\|||/|_|\|||/|_|\|||/|_|\|||/|_|\|||/|_|\|||/|_|\|||/|_|\|||/| | sshuit@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca Sinclair Shuit | | Geeky .sig joke : Trent Reznor + TCP/IP = NINternet | |\|||/|_|\|||/|_|\|||/|_|\|||/|_|\|||/|_|\|||/|_|\|||/|_|\|||/|_|\|||/| ------------------------------ End of The GUS Daily Digest V23 #13 *********************************** To post to tomorrow's digest: To (un)subscribe or get help: To contact a human (last resort): FTP Sites Archive Directories --------- ------------------- Main N.American Site: ftp.orst.edu pub/packages/gravis wuarchive.wustl.edu systems/ibmpc/ultrasound Main Asian Site: nctuccca.edu.tw PC/ultrasound Main European Site: src.doc.ic.ac.uk packages/ultrasound Main Australian Site: ftp.mpx.com.au /ultrasound/general /ultrasound/submit South African Site: ftp.sun.ac.za /pub/packages/ultrasound Submissions: archive.epas.utoronto.ca pub/pc/ultrasound/submit Newly Validated Files: archive.epas.utoronto.ca pub/pc/ultrasound Mirrors: garbo.uwasa.fi mirror/ultrasound ftp.st.nepean.uws.edu.au pc/ultrasound ftp.luth.se pub/msdos/ultrasound Gopher Sites Menu directory ------------ -------------- Main Site: src.doc.ic.ac.uk packages/ultrasound WWW Pages --------- Main Site: http://www.xmission.com/~grue/gus.html Main European Site: http://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/packages/ultrasound/ Main Australian Site: http://ftp.mpx.com.au/archive/ultrasound/general/ http://ftp.mpx.com.au/archive/ultrasound/submit/ http://ftp.mpx.com.au/gravis.html Mirrors: http://www.st.nepean.uws.edu.au/pub/pc/ultrasound/ GUS Digest Archives: http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~itam/digest.html http://www.student.adelaide.edu.au/~godfathr/gus/gus.html MailServer For Archive Access: Email to Hints: - Get the FAQ from the FTP sites or the request server. - Mail to for info about other GUS related mailing lists (programmers, musicians, etc.).